Jami' at-Tirmidhi

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1874

Arabic hadith text

حَدَّثَنَا بِذَلِكَ، أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ إِدْرِيسَ، عَنْ أَبِي حَيَّانَ التَّيْمِيِّ، عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ، عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ، عَنْ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ، إِنَّ مِنَ الْحِنْطَةِ خَمْرًا بِهَذَا ‏.‏ وَهَذَا أَصَحُّ مِنْ حَدِيثِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ بْنِ مُهَاجِرٍ ‏.‏ وَقَالَ عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْمَدِينِيِّ قَالَ يَحْيَى بْنُ سَعِيدٍ لَمْ يَكُنْ إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ مُهَاجِرٍ بِالْقَوِيِّ فِي الْحَدِيثِ ‏.‏ وَقَدْ رُوِيَ مِنْ غَيْرِ وَجْهٍ أَيْضًا عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ عَنِ النُّعْمَانِ بْنِ بَشِيرٍ ‏.‏

Translation

Unreviewed translation. All hadiths in this collection are available in five languages. Titles and introductions may remain in Arabic.

We narrated this report through Ahmad ibn Mani‘: ‘Abd Allah ibn Idris narrated to us, from Abu Hayyan al-Taymi, from al-Sha‘bi, from Ibn ‘Umar, from ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab, who said: “Indeed, khamr is made from wheat,” in similar wording.

This is more sound than the report of Ibrahim ibn Muhajir. ‘Ali ibn al-Madini said: Yahya ibn Sa‘id said, “Ibrahim ibn Muhajir was not strong in hadith.” It has also been transmitted by other routes from al-Sha‘bi, from al-Nu‘man ibn Bashir.

Notes and open questions — unreviewed
  • The English witness adds the parenthetical reference “no. 1872,” which is not present in this Arabic block and is not carried into the translation. It also compresses the route through Ibn ‘Umar and the narrator criticism.

  • أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ إِدْرِيسَ،

    The English witness omits the route through Ahmad ibn Mani‘, Abd Allah ibn Idris, Abu Hayyan, al-Sha‘bi, and Ibn Umar.

    Please review the full chain translated from Arabic.

  • ‏ وَهَذَا أَصَحُّ مِنْ حَدِيثِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ بْنِ مُهَاجِرٍ ‏.

    The Arabic says this report is more sound than Ibrahim ibn Muhajir's report, without a hadith number.

    Should the English witness's parenthetical “no. 1872” be excluded as absent from this source block?